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Carbon Monoxide Detection and HHO
Scotty and I are wondering if anyone else has the ability to check carbon monoxide levels at the bubbler or torch. I am posting our results so others will also look into this.
What our results show is plain HHO using 100% Sodium Hydroxide (caustic soda; lye) Roebic Heavy Duty Drain Opener
Dry cell (tested many types) All same results.
While no flame Raw HHO readings skyrocketed to 999ppm and Our Test Meter
was flipping out. These are not safe levels. We are sure the number if the meter could read it would have kept climbing.
While burning the HHO levels dropped very fast to about 5ppm.
9ppm = Max allowed for short term exposure in a living area.
35ppm = Max allowed eight hours exposure.
200ppm = Max exposure allowed in 15 min time frame.
400ppm = Headaches within 1 to 2 hours. Life threatening with 2 or more hours of exposure.
800ppm = Dizziness, nausea and convulsions within 45 min. Unconsciousness or even death within 2 hours.
1600ppm = Headache, dizziness within 15 min. Death after 1 hour.
We should all know these dangers so no one gets hurt..
Please if anyone else can also do these tests please post results.
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Permalink Reply by marco cioni on -
Yes.. I have found the same problem also using KOH or other electrolytes.. the instrument found some CO emitted.. In my cell I have >1500ppm as value. I have tested also titanium plates and the same problem is present. I have isolated oxygen from hydrogen and CO is revealed ONLY on cathode. I think that CO instrument don't read better the gas and the CO can be H2, for that reason I have ordered another instrument that snif CO/H2/CH4, when I receive I post the results.. Regards
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Permalink Reply by gabet123 on -
Thank you Marco this will be good to learn. Can you post a link to the device you have ordered?
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Permalink Reply by marco cioni on
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Hello,I have ordered the CO/H2/CH4 instrument from USTSENSOR company http://www.ustsensor.com/ , the cost is >200 euro without shipment cost. Regards
gabet123 said:Thank you Marco this will be good to learn. Can you post a link to the device you have ordered?
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Permalink Reply by marco cioni on
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The image of CO/H2/CH4 instrument can be found here http://ustsensor.diytrade.com/sdp/1447807/4/pd-5983253/10974083.html
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Permalink Reply by moldoveanu.marius on -
Water contain Carbonic Acid in a certain proportion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid.
During electrolysis the CO is probably to be formed.
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HODINFO SPONSORPermalink Reply by Sandro Toffoletto on -
Are you kidding?
The CO2 sensor, like LPG sensor or other sensors are activated by the abnormal presence of O2, which creates a false alarm.
It 's just a problem derived from the design principle of the sensor.
If you try an O2 sensor will see the same data.
Do not worry.
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Permalink Reply by moldoveanu.marius on
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fIf the CO sensor is just a galvanic cell probably can be "fooled" by oxygen or OH as you say. I told to Alex, here posting as Marco Cioni, to not worry about the presence of a dangerous gases like CO it use water, K and electricity to produce oxyhydrogen. Even if is CO I not see am issue since the purpose is to create a burnable gas mixture.
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Permalink Reply by marco cioni on
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Marius you don't have instruments for read gasses and you don't know what you produce from cells. I repeat again I have isolated cathode from anode and ONLY ON CATHODE carbon monoxide is revealed. When I receive new instrument I know if the lecture of instrument is falsed or is right
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Permalink Reply by Batmat on -
Não uso KOH, somente NaHCO3 com 99% de pureza, porquê com KOH pode causar danos ao meio ambiente como a chuva àcida.
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Permalink Reply by marco cioni on
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Also using other electrolytes CO appear in output..
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Permalink Reply by moldoveanu.marius on
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useless debate. KOH is caustic but one of best electrolyte available. CO in the gas mixture called HHO is caused by contamination or erronate measurment.
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Permalink Reply by moldoveanu.marius on
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In order to minimize the negative impact of KOH I proposed Borax but this need second anode to separate the Boric Acid from Sodium Hydroxide and a certain temperature of solution.
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