HODINFO is a collaborative think tank. We are an International group comprised of inventors, scientist, mechanics, tinkerers, fabricators, and out of the box thinkers. Our mission is to find innovative solutions to the problems that primarily limit the production and delivery of H2. As the world wakes up to the idea of using hydrogen it also becomes clear that immense infrastructure initiatives will be required to make it happen. If adequate solutions can be found to support HOD systems then the world can remove great and costly limitations on future applications. It is important to realize that the future is not just Hydrogen, it's Hydrogen-on-Demand.

hhhn  is not only more powerful but it is also a volume increase the hydrogen seperates from the dipole nitrogen and any hydrogen that is free floating attach to nitrogen leaving the o2s to see just what we want it to. To understand it fully you must think outside the box . What is the true purpose of hhhn or hho it is not to run the car it is to change the fuel to burn quicker cleaner and yes cooler. Take a true hydrocarbon and hit it with a oh radical and it will shatter meaning youve made twice the fuel .The more of the big chains of true hydrocarbons the easier it is to shatter the carbons but we must also have enough hyd to fill back the carbons ends. This is where the ammonia comes into the picture. Always remember we want the good hyd meaning spinning the same way . The hyd will try to pare up quickly but the odd ball hyd will hook up to the oxyg making us a true radical which is what we need to crack the fuel.The only ways to crack fuel are pressure, heat , vacum, tension changing and hydrogen oxygen radicals with a catalyst. This is what we are doing and when we thermal catalyst crack with all the above youve built a refinery on wheels .Remember the engine does not need a fuel ratio of 14.7 to 1 as old timers were taught gas is different in a liquid form. Think ac vacum is liquid and pressure is gas Ive ran a 350 chev engine upto 150 to 1 so think outside the box. to lean can be done but when you understand the mixtures of true hydrocarbons you will succed. I will be coming out with a fuel reformer soon and it will amaze everyone . And for the ones asking about the ammonia it is not in the bubbler its in the cell it takes elec to break the bonds so we can recombine to hydrocarbons. For the ones that dont believe I want you to think a couple minutes and let this set in crude oil is thick how do you think we get gasoline or dsl out of it/? The answer is simple we crack it with hyd steam and a catalyst. Now if we can do this then what makes you think that we cant take gasoline or dsl and make even lighter fuel? They meaning the oil co have done the hard part so we start with that cleaner fuel now about what there putting into our fuel this can be beat but we must burn and controll the fuel in small quantaties to eleminate the coking build up they want us to have. Who do you think makes the fuel cleaners oil co and dont forget it comes from crude also . They have a win win bit not for long.  Dan Merrick

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Hi Dan

This is very interesting as I have problems with HHO on my Mitsubishi Diesel.  All the electronics  combine to defeat the mileage gains. This may be a way to get some real gains

What sort of solution do you use with the ammonia, is it straight or mixed with other ingredients ??

Can I use a drycell to produce HHHN ??  I have an 8 x 8 " cell in 5N2 configuration and using 304 s\steel, 16ga plates. How long does the ammonia solution last for under electrolysis and would there be corrosion of the plates with this solution ??

With the nitrogen being introduced into the motor, is there the possibility that more nitrous oxides would be produced ??

Not being a chemist or having studied chemistry I am concerned that we are not contributing to more pullution with this setup and if not then you are on a real winner

So ammonia goes into the HHO cell??Is hhhn similar to HHO?? An your cracking the molecules of gasoline apart like a microreactor/gas reformer to achieve vapor so you get twice the amount an you get more hydrogen than carbon which means cleaner burning fuel!!! Is my concept correct???

                                                                                             regards  Matthew

 



Matthew Bhagwandass said:

So ammonia goes into the HHO cell??Is hhhn similar to HHO?? An your cracking the molecules of gasoline apart like a microreactor/gas reformer to achieve vapor so you get twice the amount an you get more hydrogen than carbon which means cleaner burning fuel!!! Is my concept correct???

                                                                                             regards  Matthew

 

yes it acts similair just more hyd and the oxy hooks to the nit in 5 water droplets and 1 ammonia drop = 13 hyd 1no5 =13 to 1 mixture this leaves more hyd to fill in the split hydrocarbons which makes more fuel and gives us more ho radicals which we need to crack the hydrocarbons
 
DAN MERRICK said:


Matthew Bhagwandass said:

So ammonia goes into the HHO cell??Is hhhn similar to HHO?? An your cracking the molecules of gasoline apart like a microreactor/gas reformer to achieve vapor so you get twice the amount an you get more hydrogen than carbon which means cleaner burning fuel!!! Is my concept correct???

                                                                                             regards  Matthew

 

the no5 is not as bad as the n2 as the cat if you have one will burn this up more efficently no need for electronics as it slides by the key checkers remember what i said the bigger the molecule chains the easier to break no5 is easier than no2 with heat from exhaust .

Grasack said:

Hi Dan

This is very interesting as I have problems with HHO on my Mitsubishi Diesel.  All the electronics  combine to defeat the mileage gains. This may be a way to get some real gains

What sort of solution do you use with the ammonia, is it straight or mixed with other ingredients ??

Can I use a drycell to produce HHHN ??  I have an 8 x 8 " cell in 5N2 configuration and using 304 s\steel, 16ga plates. How long does the ammonia solution last for under electrolysis and would there be corrosion of the plates with this solution ??

With the nitrogen being introduced into the motor, is there the possibility that more nitrous oxides would be produced ??

Not being a chemist or having studied chemistry I am concerned that we are not contributing to more pullution with this setup and if not then you are on a real winner

Can you give us the electrolyte formula ??? I  am sure a lot of members on this website would be interested to find out and possibly try on their units. I know I am

I saw on this site your chat re the reformer you are building. One thing that stood out was that you are using the EGR tube for the heating of the reformer.

Are you also using the EGR valve to meter out the vapour or are you introducing it elsewhere ?? I have always wondered if it would be possible to introduce HHO/HHHN/vapour through the egr valve because it opens up under acceleration it is fully open and would meter out the vapour at higher levels.

I have heard that there may be too much vacuum by doing this and was interested to see if you have tried it

tou can introduce into the egr close to intake but you must tee in and other end goes to air cleaner as this covers all load bands in which vacum isnt always present fully. as to the electrolyte it matters on the metals using on cell and space the space with 316l as most are using needs to be one eighth gap to slow oxizidation down 10 per ammonia 1500mlg i buprofin not generaic crusshed to a fine powder dissolved fully in the ammonia hydroxide the 1 third of a gal white vinegar this will help neutralize the ammonia alittle the rest distilled water toushould have a total of 2 gal liquid when done.  As for the egr as a meter no let it do its own thing so it wont throw a code im doing all this with no extra elec as the ecu will do it all.

Grasack said:

Can you give us the electrolyte formula ??? I  am sure a lot of members on this website would be interested to find out and possibly try on their units. I know I am

I saw on this site your chat re the reformer you are building. One thing that stood out was that you are using the EGR tube for the heating of the reformer.

Are you also using the EGR valve to meter out the vapour or are you introducing it elsewhere ?? I have always wondered if it would be possible to introduce HHO/HHHN/vapour through the egr valve because it opens up under acceleration it is fully open and would meter out the vapour at higher levels.

I have heard that there may be too much vacuum by doing this and was interested to see if you have tried it

T

hanx again Dan - I was wondering what my final total in liquid would be after the percentages and that helps. (for those confused, when he says "per" he means percent) - some of the dialogue has us confused as to wether or not you are using the ammoniated hhho with the catalyzer or are they still 2 separate systems, as you mentioned putting in at the EGR, which was busy with the catalyzed (reformed) gas.

Thanks Dan for the formula

As for using the EGR for injecting I think I will leave that alone. As for your reformer it sounds pretty shmick and to not have to add any other electronics; Well this is an added bonus

Keep up the good work

I made up the electrolyte and changed out my unit to it. I didn't have a bottle to check production, but it's making what appears to be about .5L/min at 2-3 amps. Did a local drive to the store and saw no gains yet - I may need to stiffen up the mix, but I'm not sure what to increase if not all except water.

Hi,

I just wanted to clarify the 10 per bit is it that 10% of 2 gallons total solution or is that the ammonium hydroxides' concentration upon purchase?

 

Thanks

 

J

jason its the 10 per ammonia hydroxide conc

Jason Albrecht said:

Hi,

I just wanted to clarify the 10 per bit is it that 10% of 2 gallons total solution or is that the ammonium hydroxides' concentration upon purchase?

 

Thanks

 

J

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