HODINFO is a collaborative think tank. We are an International group comprised of inventors, scientist, mechanics, tinkerers, fabricators, and out of the box thinkers. Our mission is to find innovative solutions to the problems that primarily limit the production and delivery of H2. As the world wakes up to the idea of using hydrogen it also becomes clear that immense infrastructure initiatives will be required to make it happen. If adequate solutions can be found to support HOD systems then the world can remove great and costly limitations on future applications. It is important to realize that the future is not just Hydrogen, it's Hydrogen-on-Demand.

CC-HOD RESEARCH GROUP

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CC-HOD RESEARCH GROUP

This group is designed to support the work done by Howard Phillips of Phillips Company.

This groups mission is to find solutions to the current issues presented by the technology and to open source these solutions to the world. This group believes in the Phillips Company Moto of "Take it to the People".

Website: http://www.phillipscompany.4t.com/HYDROGEN.html
Location: World Wide
Members: 13
Latest Activity: Aug 27, 2015

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Popularity of your technology

Started by Vonz. Last reply by Howard Phillips Sep 22, 2014. 2 Replies

Hi Howard,I have seen your video on youtube that explains the chemical reactions. It is very interesting however it has only a few views.If you want your technology to have a better reach I think you…Continue

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Comment by Robert Carl Denton on November 13, 2014 at 11:03am

Thanks Martin for your comments.

Comment by Martin Moore on November 13, 2014 at 3:09am

Hi Robert,

I've been experimenting with CC and H2 for a little while now and I think I could help a little from from a practical perspective.

The relatively low temperature of 180'F (80'C) is useful because it opens up avenues for a variety of plastics for containing a reaction, which is very useful to an experimenter. Polycarbonate is one such material as its shatter-proof and good to about 230'F (110'C) before it starts to wilt.

H2 is definitely NOT the same as H2. HOD is rally nasty stuff and will ignite if mildly compresed (lots of history on the internet for that), HOD will hang around in a confined area for a while which creates more risks of an explosion. H2 on the other hand will quickly rise and dissipate and of course can safely be compressed (in the absence of Oxygen of course).

Your issues will not be to make a fuel cell to convert the H2 to electricity, it will be to make a cell that will produce a sustained flow of H2 from the Catalytic Carbon and Aluminium. Crack that nut and you are home and dry!

I'm nowhere near Nashville (I'm in the UK - London) but I'm happy to exchange a few ideas if you might find them useful. 

Comment by Robert Carl Denton on November 12, 2014 at 7:35pm

Hi fellow HODies.I have a few questions about HOD. Since you only need 180 degrees to generate H2 With CC & Alum.Does that cut down on the risk factor? Also HHO is not the same as H2 is it? Any ideas on a fuel cell or a way to convert to electricity? Is there any HODies near Nashville, TN. who would like to converse about generating H2? Being a Solar Fuel Harvester, I am very close to finishing my proto type that will create H2 and I could use some help. Thanks.

Comment by Howard Phillips on November 10, 2014 at 2:15pm

Correction;  The correct URL is www.phillipscompany.4t.com/hydrogen.html

Comment by Howard Phillips on November 10, 2014 at 2:03pm

To Brian and Martin

I am one of the people who experimented with the HOD tech, some while back, I have been kicking around the idea for a while and it seems to me you're producing H2 here, is that not so?

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.  FOR MORE INFO:  www.phillipscompany.4t.com/html

 

Have you ever spent any time quantitatively and qualitatively testing to see what is being produced?

YES.  FOR THE INDEPENDENT LAB TESTS, PLEASE SEE www.phillipscompany.4T.com/PUR.pdf

 

You should look at the possibilty of compressing the H2 into tanks and getting it to market that way via the traditional way, however you're method means that tank hydrogen could be supplied at perhaps 20 % (I'm guessing) of the cost of conventional tank hydrogen, this would represent a huge treat to the entrenched interests.

THE CC-HOD METHOD USES ONLY TWO FUELS -- WATER AND ALUMINUM.  So, the cost of production is the cost of aluminum granules.  For work to replace aluminum with a much cheaper fuel (cheaper than dirt is our goal), please see www.phillipscompany.4T.com/ALS.pdf

 

For an engineering cost analysis, please see www.phillipscompany.4T.com/SFS.pdf

 

 

 

 

With the H2 stored in a tank if can be used in conventional ways, as I understand it tank hydrogen is considered fairly safe, HHO stored in tanks is not.

That is correct.  But, CC-HOD can produce hydrogen at ANY rate (LPM), limited ONLY by the apparatus used.  So, why store hydrogen?  Could storage of water and aluminum be more safe?

 

Kind regards,

Howard

 

Comment by Martin Moore on November 9, 2014 at 5:13pm

Hi Brian,
I have been working with Howard Phillips for a little while now on Catalytic Carbon and H2. Howard has had the product tested and apart from a little water vapour it is nearly all H2. If you visit Howard's site you can see some 3rd party analysis of th finished product. A gas dryer in the line would remove the last of the vapour.
Much of what you write about, cost savings, storage etc is clearly documented on Howard's site and its worth spending a couple of hours just doing nothing else but reading.
Yes, we know of Justin and his work on H-Cat and some of us are involved in looking closely at its potential after taking Justin's lead.
Yes H2 can be stored safely and under pressure easily enough... just don't let it see any Oxygen.
I'd seriously recommend a visit to Howard's home site here:
http://www.phillipscompany.4t.com/
Kind Regards,
Martin

Comment by Brian Whelan on November 9, 2014 at 3:50pm

Hi Dr Phillips

I am one of the people who experimented with the HOD tech, some while back, I have been kicking around the idea for a while and it seems to me you're producing H2 here, is that not so? Have you ever spent any time quantitatively and qualitatively testing to see what is being produced because it seems to me if you are in fact producing H2 which is somtimes referred to as tank hydrogen or para hydorgen then possibly you should look at the possibilty of compressing the H2 into tanks and getting it to market that way via the traditional way, however you're method means that tank hydrogen could be supplied at perhaps 20 % (I'm guessing) of the cost of conventional tank hydrogen, this would represent a huge treat to the entrenched interests, so it seems that a backyard method of setting up the HOD process and compressing into existing hydrogen tanks that are placed at the back of say a house to be used as method of heating a house, There is an issue here with safety, With the H2 stored in a tank if can be used in conventional ways, as I understand it tank hydrogen is considered fairly safe, HHO stored in tanks is not. A young fella Justin Church based in North Carolina   jdcProducts.com has been looking into storing of Hydrogen separated from water using electrolysis powered by solar, (he also stumbled upon another important discovery see H Cat). Have you done an anlaysis of the current cost of tank hydrogen and how much you're tech could produce it for, as a general rule I would say keep away from conglomorates, see if it possible that a person of moderate means could turn this into a business. Anyway these are my thoughts

Comment by gabet123 on August 9, 2014 at 7:02pm
Comment by gabet123 on July 17, 2014 at 6:53pm

Welcome to the group Robert! Glad to have you working with us. Currently the biggest limitation is the need for aluminum. If we can find a cheaper material it will be a game changer.

Comment by Robert Carl Denton on July 17, 2014 at 1:01pm

Hi Howard and other members. We talked last year about using cc to generate hydrogen. I had to take a break because of family matters, but now I am back on the project. I am glad to see a group working with you on using cc. I am building a proto type that uses cc to generate electricity. I would love to talk to any members of the group about their progress.

 

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