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“I refuse to recognize that there are impossibilities. I cannot discover that any one knows enough about anything on this earth definitely to say what is and what is not possible.
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At 9:29am on August 25, 2008, h2o2go said…
Hi Eclectic
I'm working on my first generator using clam shells or wall plates (for the neg) and a central plate (pos) like sirHOAX on Youtube. The array of each cell is -+- and they are wired in parallel using two bolts.
I used a teaspoon of baking soda - it's way too much using 50amps to make .6 of a litre in a minute.
I see u use plates with 4 neutrals +nnnn- and that u have tried various designs.
If you have any info on a simple system that draws 10 or less amps to create 1 litre per min I'd love to hear about it please.
I haven't run it for more than 2 hours so I dont know if the plates will become more efficient but it's not good enough right now.
I was thinking about trying vinegar? Have you?
Well done on your input to the group,
At 11:24am on August 18, 2008, gabet123 said…
I agree. Nothing is impossible you just need enough combined knowledge.
At 6:24pm on August 17, 2008, james burns said…
single cell in open bath. The reason for H only cell is this. My theory is one too much O2 can actually cool the combustion process. If you have ever used a Oxy Acetelyne torch you can see if too much O2 is added then the flame goes out. Two it screws with the O2 sensor. So the engine is designed to run on the O2 content of the air any added will lean out the mixture. I have seen were straight H is added engine efficency is increased with no electronics. HHo is excellent for diesels and running a car straight on with little or no outside air intake. Just to mess with outside air intake is hard.
At 1:33pm on August 17, 2008, james burns said…
No I am building a h only cell and was thinking of a neutral as a seperator. But I need to know if the neutral has polarity and what it is. Is it -(+-)+ or -(-+)+ the neutral in ()
At 4:50pm on August 16, 2008, gabet123 said…
Thanks man I appreciate that!
At 4:48pm on August 16, 2008, james burns said…
I have a question if I set up a cell +n- what is the polarity of the neutral does the - side stay - and the + side stay +
At 7:08pm on August 4, 2008, derBeaner said…
Thanks for the info on your unit. I'd like to build faster, just don't enjoy working in the heat. All I can say is, I may be slow, but I am slow. ;-)
At 6:27pm on August 2, 2008, Bob Campbell said…
What did you use for o-rings-shower pan liner with specs of 40 mills? Have you run it for 8 hrs or more on bench? What is the electrical arrangement & can you change this arrangement like Sid Young alludes to on his web site. How many neutrals? Wonder what that KoH would do to that shower pan liner-have you tested that yet? Did you base your plate size on any particular application? Let me reiterate by expressing that is one hell va looking unit!

I used 40mil shower pan liner. The longest I’ve run it was about 3 hours at any one time. The array is +nnn-nnn+nnn-nnn+

I’ve built another like this one but smaller to do experiments with. I have an electrical connection on each plate. What I found was +nnnn- was the most efficient. +nnnnn- was too much. It might be more efficient but I could not get enough HHO to measure the results in this lifetime. I do not wish to use KoH because I don’t want to use something so caustic. I’m currently running 4 teaspoons per gallon and getting 2 LPM @ 25A cold. It warms up to 4+LPM @40Amps two hours. I plan to used Zero Fossil Fuels current limiting PWM to keep it steady.

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