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two part report on HHO for heavy duty trucks
Two part report done at our company on HHO. This is part of a larger plan to develop an HHO performance standard. One of the obstacles for HHO technology is the lack of an accepted performance…Continue
Started Oct 7, 2012
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Hi-There are a couple documents I have. They are divided into Part I and Part II. It is targeted at Diesels and Class 8 trucks in particular. It describes a system that could serve as the basis for…Continue
Started Sep 24, 2012
Does HHO make free O2 go up or down on a spark-ignition engines?
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Hi all,Marius' measurements on his oxygen sensor got me thinking. I am not sure what kind of sensor he has. There are several different types. I think the zirconium oxide is most common. Marius saw…Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by moldoveanu.marius Jun 16, 2012.
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"In answer to my own question, here is a study dome by some scientists in Poland:
http://qirt.gel.ulaval.ca/archives/qirt2008/papers/06_06_08.pdf
To be specific they use an infrared pyrometer OMEGA S3750 which is exactly what I had a problem…"
temperature of HHO flame
It is stated in various sources that the HHO flame temperature is130 degrees C in open air but a source is never cited. I wonder if this value was not obtained by using an infrared thermometer to measure the flame temperature. An infrared thermometer operates on the assumption that the heat source is a black body, that is, the spectral signature of the emission is described by Planck's law. However, this is not true of any flame. The emission signature of a flame typically has peaks at 0.185…See More
"Hi, we do research on HHO and Diesel. In a two part report, we do several things:
> Develop a plot of mileage improvement vs. speed and current (which looks quite different from what might be expected) based on engine dyno…"
two part report on HHO for heavy duty trucks
Two part report done at our company on HHO. This is part of a larger plan to develop an HHO performance standard. One of the obstacles for HHO technology is the lack of an accepted performance standard. This makes it harder for companies, fleet operators, government and municpal agencies etc to buy HHO systems because to make a purchase, they have to open a contract for competitive bidding so they prepare a request for quote (RFQ) or request for proposal (RFP). Without a performance…See More
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Hi-There are a couple documents I have. They are divided into Part I and Part II. It is targeted at Diesels and Class 8 trucks in particular. It describes a system that could serve as the basis for a product that would adjust HHO generator and engine parameters for optimal performance. It would be real-time adaptive but also targeted to the response of the particular engine model to HHO. The company producing this product would generate an engine profile on a test vehicle. This data file…See More
moldoveanu.marius replied to charles ware's discussion 'Does HHO make free O2 go up or down on a spark-ignition engines?'"@ @Gabet
Need more data to conclude..I'm still in a clouds here..
@Charles
I agree with you about heat conversion as cause of ICE low efficiency.
Oil in almost all forms as fuel is "overqualified" producing too much heat... conversion…"
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I should be faulted for not reading the original thread carefully enough. I did not clearly understand what Marius was saying.
However, I am really more interested in the actual effect of HHO on emmissions data which…"
gabet123 replied to charles ware's discussion 'Does HHO make free O2 go up or down on a spark-ignition engines?'"Marius,
If I am to extrapolate what I think I am reading here and I don't have much knowledge in this direction so bare with me. But If you can get these reading with or without HHO then I am wondering if inducing a slight voltage on the…"
moldoveanu.marius replied to charles ware's discussion 'Does HHO make free O2 go up or down on a spark-ignition engines?'"@Charles Please note that I rectified ...it was mV ....and measurment where done on exhaust pipe and negative terminal of battery.
Acoording to second measurment I've done the values are the same with and without HHO delivered to engine.
It may…"
gabet123 replied to charles ware's discussion 'Does HHO make free O2 go up or down on a spark-ignition engines?'"Charles if this discussion was started because you thought Marius was saying one thing when he was actually saying something else then please correct the title by going to the options button and edit this discussion. If this discussion was started…"
"Well, if you post:
I am going to think that HHO causes the output voltage of the sensor to go up. Now, I am not quite sure what you are measuring. My vehicle is 2005 Golf TDI. Being a Diesel it does not have oxygen sensor as far…"
"Marius you do not need to be sorry. It was just my suggestion. I think it can help in your research if you will be able to compare measurements when you have 2 types of gas - with oxygen and without. There is people how use generators producing only…"
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- What do you do for a living or have special education in?
- 20 years product development in electronic instrumentation and controls. Worked as embedded software developer. Work history on linkedin.com. Bach. Sci, degree in Chemistry
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- I would like to interact more with other HHO experimenters in the Chicago area.Perahps we could have a meet-up.
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temperature of HHO flame
It is stated in various sources that the HHO flame temperature is130 degrees C in open air but a source is never cited. I wonder if this value was not obtained by using an infrared thermometer to measure the flame temperature. An infrared thermometer operates on the assumption that the heat source is a black body, that is, the spectral signature of the emission is described by Planck's law. However, this is not true of any flame. The emission signature…
ContinuePosted on January 1, 2013 at 12:15pm — 2 Comments
Does HHO work on Ford IDI Powerstroke diesel?
This video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkFx1LqZwCQ&feature=related on youtube states in the description:
Continue[HHO] works great on every kind of car, truck, SUV, van, etc. The only one truck we have seen it not work on is the Ford Diesel PowerStroke model - why? Because that particular design uses a ""pre-combustion chamber"" to begin burning the fuel BEFORE it enters the main…
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 2:11pm
really good third party HHO evaluation
An Australian company called Empire Hydrogen Energy Systems which makes HHO systems for vehicles had an Edmonton, Alberta environmental consultant do a "independent third party" evaluation of their technology. They produced a very nice report that can be found at:
http://www.empirehydrogen.com/docs/ThirdPartyReview-EHES.pdf
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 3:56pm — 1 Comment
EPA study
According to this web page http://holysmoke.org/hho/the-facts.html , "the EPA tested two dozen HHO units and they were all found to be ineffective". Googling a few variations of EPA HHO evaluation and searching the EPA website turned up nothing. Was these ever such an evaluation done? I should think DOE would be more likely to sponsor such an evaluation rather than the EPA.
This article also says that if HHO were…
ContinuePosted on January 25, 2012 at 3:00pm — 2 Comments
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- At 10:20am on April 26, 2012, gabet123 said…
Your interaction number 6
- At 4:18pm on January 25, 2012,
Ed Grimm said… Hello Mr. Ware
Thank you for posting your findings. It was concise and sensible and begins to fill a void of useful data.
I did some simple dyno tests using a chassis dyno and a Chevy 4.3 that showed a very nice gain in the
more useful lower RPMs. Wish that data was as comprehensive as yours but it does reveal what we all know is real. HHO is very useful.
- At 2:29pm on January 24, 2012,
charles ware said…
Here is a paper I did:
I have yet to receive a single comment about it. The equation section I would like to simplify and make it a little more persuasive. I am really interseted in the idea of optimizing poerfoirmance of HHO systems, but it is hard to do that systematiclly without a quantitative understanding of how HHO affects the thermodynaomics of the heat cycle. I am actually working on a prototype at this time that would address this issue.
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