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Comment by Bill on August 13, 2011 at 7:08am

Matt, I think the larger external reservoir is a good idea. I will have to try some experiments with this. The only time it is really required is if your unable to have your cells out in front of the radiator. Alot of the newer vehicles there is less and less room to install these. Thanks for the feedback.

Comment by Matthew Bhagwandass on August 12, 2011 at 11:00pm

Bill you should have a Bigger external Reservoir circulating water in your HHO jar cell but have it done like the Dry cell setup!!

 

Comment by Matthew Bhagwandass on August 12, 2011 at 10:37pm

I would have to agree with Karl on this one but I dont even think the Jar cell needs a cooling system how efficient would that be an how much Watts required altogether.....the Jar Cell should be warm to the touch although much more Amps would we drawn when it warms Up....That copper tube should wrap around the Exhaust line an ported to your Engines Air Intake.... problem solved

Comment by gary mbz (hho boost now) on May 1, 2009 at 9:13pm

i personally don't like the use of glass jars or selling them as a safe hho product.on the copper if you watch closley using koh you will start to see copper in your wateryour spacing apears normal but we found 3/64 produces more gas ..not that we know any more than anyone else ...just some things we found that work.cooling can be done in several ways ...at present we use a 5.29 gallon bubbler wnd are running about 68 to 70 degree water return with gas out temp at 97 to 105 degree ,all this is with 37to 42 amps producing a 39%increase in fuel mileage . We have now discovered a newer way and will be testing our new bubbler /cooler within 2 weeks

Comment by Bill on April 30, 2009 at 6:17pm

Hi Karl,
I have been running this for several months now and there is very minimal corrosion.
Copper tends to corrode only on the outside where there is air to feed the corrosion process even the corrosion that is on the surface, or I rather say discoloration tends to only be on the surface..
I am looking into S.S. just the same, But the copper seems to be holding up fine.
also with the plate setup I'm using the generators stay crystal clear and I only add distilled water @ about 1,000 miles.
There is no visual evidence that the copper is leaching into the water.
So far this set-up has been great. I run 2 (13) plate generators with the plates configured +nnn-nnn+nnn- with 1/16" spacing in paralel off of one PWM and approx. 3/8 tsp. lye per 48 ounce distilled water, this electrode set-up is in a 48 ounce High temp PET plastic Jar and I am getting my best results of all other setups I have tried.
The cooling system definitely makes a huge difference.
I am running these in a 1999 dodge ram with the 5.9 v8 with an O2 extender and have been seeing as much as 7 more MPG on average.
Sometimes less if I am pulling alot of hills. But I do not have to worry about the cells overheating anymore.

Comment by Karl on April 30, 2009 at 1:54am

I have also used a recirculating reservoir in my system. It definitely helps in keeping the temperature down

Comment by Karl on April 30, 2009 at 1:52am

The cooling system concept is definitely a positive part of a system, copper tubing on the other hand is not necessarily the material of choice when using caustic solutions.

You may want to take some of your solution, put it in a jar, take a piece of copper and put it in the same jar. Put the lid on it and let it set for a few days, if the copper starts turning blue/green, your material is oxidizing. Not something you want in your cell as part of the process.

Stainless tubing would be a better choice, I have check a few auto parts stores, they seem to have a problem getting it. Junk yard with "OLDER" cars in it, fuel lines and brake lines were made of stainless back then. Other option is check into home brew kits, stainless tubing coils are used as part of the process.