similarity between HHO and LENR (Low energy nuclear reaction)

Thinking of writing another monograph on the similarities between HHO and LENR* such as:


  • Large energy yields, in one test at UNOH the yield was 19.8 MJ per gram of hydrogen injected. That is about 160 times greater than the the heat of combustion and that is not raw energy, it is mechanical output on the engine shaft. The raw yield would have been about 3 times greater.

  • Excess energy. In these tests, this energy output may have been greater than energy available in the fuel since average exhaust temperatures increased. No study has ever been done of the effect of HHO on the energy budget of an engine that I know of.

  • Classical explanations that are usually given, do not explain typical efficiency increases very well, in a way consistent with all the data.

  • Adding more HHO increases efficiency only up to a point. Under certain conditions a spike in the efficiency occurs. It may be that the metal in the cylinder is involved in the LENR. Increased surface area or the quality of surface may allow use of much larger HHO quantity to get a proportionately larger spike perhaps reducing fuel to nominal use as an ignition source in the case of a Diesel engine design.

  • Efficiency increase sometimes does not occur until HHO has been flowing for a bit or continues for a while even after HHO is shutoff. This would be consistent with the effect being controlled by a very small amount of agent absorbed onto the inside surface of the cylinder.

  • Results vary widely indicating factors exerting a strong effect that are not clearly understood.

  • HHO involves use of electrolysis and hydrogen, common factors in LENR experiments.

*  LENR stands for Low Energy Nuclear Reaction. A website that gives a good overview of this subject is: http://www.lenrproof.com

   

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Comment by moldoveanu.marius on February 12, 2015 at 2:03am

LERN it may be very well just the effect of hydrogen negative ion reaction with hydrogen positive ion.

H(-) + H3O(+)=H2O+H2+1776kJ/mol

Is the most probably the reaction that overheat the conventional electrolytic cells ( aka HHO generators).

I reduced the heat by design, avoiding the new born hydrogen to reach the anode where H3O(+)  accumulate.

In other experience I get apparent excess of heat by forcing the new born H to reach the anode.

Oxygen reaching the cathode make hydrogen peroxide. The temperature decompose it..synergistic. 

Not only me did those tests..

In some conditions the current drop to near zero but the device is getting even hotter.

Done also, tested.

This effect could be exploited to maximum to get heat in apparent excess and here is LERN.

About so called HHO and your statement

"Efficiency increase sometimes does not occur until HHO has been flowing for a bit or continues for a while even after HHO is shutoff. This would be consistent with the effect being controlled by a very small amount of agent absorbed onto the inside surface of the cylinder."

Please imagine the HHO a Potassium Hydride. The amount of Potasium left inside the engine drive to reactions with NOx and results are still good over a time even if the cell is OFF.

Hydrides have also most of all  other proprieties claimed by HHO.

Comment by Howard Phillips on February 11, 2015 at 10:11pm

I believe you are correct.  We have some fundamental (excess energy) experimental data that supports your observations.  Our research group will be pleased to share these data with you as confidential information, until we can publish the results in the form of a technical paper.  If you want to follow up, you can reach me at hp@valliant.net              Kind regards,  Howard

Comment by gabet123 on February 11, 2015 at 8:39pm

That is interesting about the delay effect.

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